Question: As with most of the other questions here, I have a general idea of the answer yet the answers you share go much deeper going to the "root" of the matter. Things are getting very clear. My question is about Revelation chapter 18, there seems to be a lot of symbolism there. Would you expound on the content of this chapter that appears so full of the judgment of God?
James
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Michael: I will share with you basics of this chapter that should make the chapter explain itself. Revelation Chapter 18 deals precisely with Babylon. It shows what Babylon has become and what it will become. Babylon represents tyranny, confusion and self worship. One can look to ancient Babylon and understand the sense of its use in this respect. Babylon was a nation that captured other states and made them subservient to itself. This is much like the United States does now. Babylon would go into another nation, as America has done in Serbia and Iraq, take over the country and place rulers in those countries who were obedient to the king of Babylon. We recently saw one of those "obedient" elections in the Ukraine.
Babylon was one of the major forces that captured Jerusalem in about 586 B.C. The Israelites would be in captivity to this power for about 70 years, at which time movements would begin to reestablish the city of Jerusalem. Babylon was pagan in religion and served many gods thereby introducing confusion into the hearts and minds of the people. America now serves many gods. It calls this "Freedom of religion." The gods it actually serves are the Masonic gods whose emblems are all over Washington D.C. In Babylon, some of these pagan gods fought with each other, according to the religious myths of the land. Babylon has come to represent those cultures who have many deities and a confusion of thoughts. This is aptly applied to present day America.
Some Christians seem to take pride in the fact that miracles happen in their churches, but miracles were also evident in paganism. Their idols sometimes wept. Priests could sometimes produce fire or even lightning by their incantations. Some pagans spoke in ecstatic tongues. Some Christians believe that ecstatic tongues are a sign of the Holy Spirit, and so did the pagans believe so. Some of the idols would be observed smiling one moment, and frowning in displeasure the next. There are some in today's religions that put great value on such signs and wonders, when actually they came right out of Babylon and the mystery religions of the ancients.
In the Scriptures there are certain specifics that stand out concerning Babylon. According to the book of Daniel, Nebuchadnezzar was one of the greatest rulers of Babylon who took credit for its greatness. He desired to be worshipped as a god and he desired that his kingdom would rule forever, as was evidenced by his golden image placed on the plains of Dura. This kingdom finally came to represent a kingdom who worked to force all other kingdoms to be under its authority and whose king expected worship. Some of the meanings of worship are, "extravagant respect or devotion." In the Scriptures worship means, "prostrate, in homage to royalty or God, bow down, humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop." The judgment of God came against this human worship in Babylon, and Nebuchadnezzar was made to eat grass for seven years because he worshipped himself. When this worship is expressed toward a human, it is akin to "respect of persons." That is, it reverences a man above another. It reverences a man because of his political station or human authority.
The second thing about Babylon that especially stands out, is using the vessels of the temple for one's own purposes, like the king of Babylon did the night that his kingdom was taken away from him by God. This happened when king Belshazzar boastfully used the sacred emblems that came from the temple in Jerusalem for his party and for his presumptuous celebration. This was the act that brought down Babylon and dried up its river of protection, the Euphrates.
When one boasts of his station, such as the Pope of Rome did, claiming to be the vicar of Christ when he was not, or boasts that his criminal actions are of God, as did Mr. Bush when he ordered the war on Iraq, these things are evidence of Babylon. Mr. Bush used the vessels of the temple to give credibility to his aggression in the Middle East and to set up his tents there. He has done this in the name of God, and by so doing the river Euphrates was dried up, just as it was for Belshazzar's overthrow. He made a way for the kings of the east to come against him. He calls those kings, "insurgents and terrorists." There are also other kings who are coming against him and those kings are the kings of heaven. This immoral act was so striking and illegal, even the natural man winced at how it was pulled off.
In the book of Revelation there are two beasts that come up. One beast came up out of the sea, and the second beast came up out of the earth. The sea is sometimes used to represent the masses. "But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt." Isaiah 57:20. This troubled sea gave birth to the Roman Catholic church. When there had been much persecution in Rome of Christians, and this caused an increase of Christian converts, the final conclusion was to mix the religion of Christianity with paganism. Officially the emperor was converted to Christianity, in actuality Christianity was converted to paganism. This confusion largely succeeded. The worship of the pantheon of gods was transferred to the worship of Mary and the disciples of Jesus. There were many other saints as well. The holy days of the pagan Roman empire were transferred over into the converted Christianity and used for its holy days, instead. Christmas was one of those holy days, Sunday worship was another. Christians had kept the seventh day Sabbath before this time. This was the confusion of Babylon before and after the amalgamation between Christianity and paganism. The old miracles associated with the pagan gods, were now seen with the images of Jesus and his disciples. While this was the confusion, it was not the greatest of errors. The greatest errors came in with the worship of the Pope. It was to place a man over the "ordinary" citizen. It was to honor a man over his fellows. This was the crime of Nebuchadnezzar, and this was the crime of Papal Rome. This was also the crime of imperial Rome before it.
The glory days of the Roman church are past. That beast came out of the sea, and this "troubled sea" was what the Roman church consisted of. The second beast would come up out of the earth, the political. It would be most notable for its merchandise and expensive goods. There has never been any nation on earth more noted for its wealth above all peoples than America has been in this last hundred years. The 18th chapter of Revelation lists the great wealth of this society. "The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, and cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men." Revelation 18:12-13. These things are certainly a memory of Christmas time in America and the lists that are written for this season.
"Slaves, and souls of men" accurately depicts those who have entered into debt. These souls become vassals of the banking elite. They own the body and soul, for God has no opportunity to get a word in edgewise in their hectic daily schedules to work and pay their bills. Now is the golden age for this society of money and merchandise. Never has merchandise been so sophisticated and luxurious. Now is the age when it all comes to an end, for the Scriptures go on to say in this chapter, that all of these things are coming to their end. We are on the verge of witnessing this event, which was introduced with the destruction of the World Trade Center, the darkest omen this nation has ever had since the Great Depression.
This second beast has the same qualities as the Babylon before it. It exercises the same powers. It seeks to bring all men under one financial system, one international government, as Papal Rome thought to bring all men under one religious system and government. It seeks the worship of all men. "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Revelation 14:11. This Scripture may be seen as fulfilled when one reads the daily news. Those who worship this beast never find rest to their troubled souls, as those who worshipped the beast before it. This worship is very evident in something perceived as so benign: "I pledge allegiance to the flag." The flag represents a civil government and a civil government is that which is represented in the Scriptures by a beast. One pledging allegiance is actually saying, "I pledge allegiance to the beast." It goes on to say, "One nation under God." The pledge of allegiance of itself, is blasphemous for the nation is not under God at all. This is the nation that bans the Ten Commandments from public buildings. It is the nation that restricts Christian religious symbols in public places. It is the nation that kills its unborn babies. It is the nation that spends its time on pornographic web sites, and in movies of pleasure and debauchery. This nation calls these things "Freedom." No, this nation is not under God at all.
The Babylonish title can well be given to the modern church for its confusion, and to the United States for its tyranny and self worship. All the world wonders after the beast. They have all come into line and worship at the feet of the beast. The international immorality, and the profligate society in general have come up before God as a stench and a stink. This chapter warns, "Come out of her My people, so you will not receive of her plagues." This chapter warns that the economy is going to crash. No one will buy of this Babylon's merchandise anymore. This is also true of the modern religion of the day. Man will come to see that the religion that has been called "Christian" is actually a fake, and no one will buy its merchandise anymore, either.
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. Revelation 18:21-24
It may be noted that there are consequences for going along with the beast and not coming out of her. One such consequence was seen in the recent tsunami in Asia. The report came in, that most of the dead were children. These children will be relieved of the curse that has come into their nations. Often, children are used as sex objects for foreign tourists who go to that region for sex vacations. The news reported that the area was notorious for the sex trade. Some children were sold for sex or death. Even while the waves were retreating, the news reported that the country had to clamp down on the export of children. Children were being kidnapped because their parents were dead. In that part of the world, people make "good money" off of the kids.
The plagues that come upon this world are not accidents or freaks of nature. They are effects of a cause. The hurricanes in Florida and the loss of American homes, can be directly connected to the loss of Iraqi homes by American bombers. "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Gal 6:7. I will write this again in a little different way. "Hey you people, don't fool yourself; God will not be made fun of: for whatever a man does, precisely, that will come back upon him." This law is never broken, but Babylon thinks it is broken. Babylon thinks God doesn't see what it is doing. All of this wealth will perish and all of the worshippers of the beast will wail. They will pledge allegiance no more, for there will be nothing to pledge allegiance to.
The Trumpets and the Plagues
Question: In your answer to G.T. you said, "Now we are in the midst of the opening of the seventh seal. This opens the way for the trumpets that will reveal the wrath of the Lamb. We are already hearing the blowing of the trumpets and seeing the results of them." My question is, what is the relationship between the seven trumpets and seven plagues regarding the wrath of the Lamb?
Timothy
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Michael: Actually, the seals are only seals that open to view the events that have occurred, or are occurring. It is like reading a book that was previously hidden because the seals are removed from it. I could more precisely say that, "The opening of the seventh seal, opens the way for us to see the trumpets that reveal the wrath of the Lamb. We are already seeing what the blowing of the trumpets is and we are seeing the results of them." The trumpets are not the plagues. Trumpets are announcements. Trumpets are warnings. The plagues come in vials. The vial is the actual pouring out. It may be noted that the trumpets and plagues usher in very related events, indicating that the plagues are announced before they fall. There is a verbal warning that goes out, and that verbal warning comes with very real effects. These things could be observed at the time of Jesus Christ as well. As we shall see, Jesus appeared during the time of the sixth trumpet of his own generation, and when the Jews were settled into their rejection of the Messiah Who had been sent to save them and to trumpet the present truth, they saw their sixth plague.
Below is a little layout for comparison, so that one might easily compare the two events mentioned in the Scriptures.
Trumpet One Hail and fire mingled with blood; all grass burned and 1/3 of the trees. In 1987 the hail and fire of truth brought the "Gift" of God's Life within, with the message to leave the churches that didn't want that Gift. All of the weak in faith died from fear of leaving their previous associations. ......... Plague One A grievous sore came to them because of the rejection of the Life of Christ, and the message of separation. They called the "Gift" spurious. Trumpet Two Something like a great mountain cast into the sea; 1/3 of the sea becomes blood; 1/3 living creatures died; 1/3 ships destroyed. This event was seen in 1989. Plague Two Vial poured upon the sea and every living soul died in the sea. Trumpet Three 1/3 part of rivers become wormwood; many died of the bitter waters. Plague Three Rivers and fountains of water became blood. Trumpet Four 1/3 part of the sun smitten, third part of the moon, third part of the stars. A third part of them were darkened. In 1996 Shillum and The WINDS exposed the darkness of the earth and men took action to keep the little book and other publications from being read, especially in governmental circles. Plague Four Vial poured upon the sun and it scorches men with fire. Men blasphemed God because of the heat that was generated by The WINDS. WOE, WOE, WOETrumpet Five Star falls with key to the bottomless pit. Scorpions came out and tortured men with stings for five months. War against Serbia 1999 Plague Five Seat of the beast left in complete darkness. The Winds left the beast in darkness, February 1999. Trumpet Six Four angels loosed which were prepared for that time and had been bound in the river Euphrates, to slay a third part of men; seven thunders sounded; things kept secret. Commanded to prophecy again. The beginning of the war in Iraq. 2000 Plague Six Vial poured upon the river Euphrates (Iraq), preparing the way for the kings of the east. Three unclean spirits like frogs, gathering to Armageddon. 2000 A.D. Time of the Two Witnesses, the Marriage of the Lamb, great earthquake. 3 1/2 years in the wilderness. Michael comes as thief. Those unprepared lose everything and know it not. These things occurred over the 1260 days of being fed in the wilderness. Behold, I [Michael] come as a thief, blessed is he who has clean garments, so that he does not end up ashamed. Must have wedding garment on. Trumpet Seven The announcement that the kingdoms of the world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Messiah, and He shall reign for ever and forever. Great hail because the heavens opened and everything is seen clearly, there were thunderings and lightnings. This was after the midst of the week, 2004 and ends October 2007. Plague Seven It is done, great earthquake. Great hail, everything moved out of its place. This plague remains along with the others until the end of the desolation. The chart included here may give you an idea as to how to perceive the trumpets and plagues. In 1987 the first trumpet was blown. The Scriptures, especially in Revelation, are highly symbolic. That is, the visible images John was given to see, are representations of realities in the spiritual world that are invisible to the natural human eye. The Spirit interprets events to which the natural man is blind. The Scriptures are for the churches, but they are a mystery to the natural man. The Scriptures are foolishness to him. If a church has died because of its resistance to the truth, then the Scriptures are a mystery to that body of souls also.
The trumpets are to show the people of God what is happening, so that they might be encouraged. The trumpets also serve as a warning to those who may awaken from their death slumber. The judgments begin at the house of God and then spread out into the earth. After the trumpet is blown, then the effect of its rejection is revealed a little time later. Every plague follows every trumpet as an effect of the rejection of the people to the message that the trumpet announced.
"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up." Revelation 8:7. This one Scripture verse has a little clue built within it. It is "8:7." This trumpet marks the year 1987, when the people of God were called out of their apostate churches. This event occurred on the Day of Atonement of that year. It was October 3, 1987. There was at that time "hail" sweeping away the refuge of lies, and "fire" (lightning) mingled with the hail and also the blood of men who spiritually died in the process of events. This trumpet reports that all of the green grass was burned up and 1/3 of the trees. The grass represents the tenderest and weakest plants: "Therefore their inhabitants were of small power, they were dismayed and confounded: they were as the grass of the field, and as the green herb, as the grass on the housetops, and as corn blasted before it be grown up." Isaiah 37:27.
The trees represent the ones established in their particular faith. When we read the first plague we can see the results which followed after the trumpets were blown. There was a great festering sore because of the guiltiness of the professed believers and their reaction to the trumpet which reminded them of their condition. They were shown their culpability, and that left them ulcerous. The last meetings held in Babylon that I had attended in 1987, trumpeted the fallen state of the churches, and the plague was the people's reaction to that message some time after the trumpet was blown. When the plague came, it was the actual anointing from the vial so that the people were now anointed with the spirit that they had chosen to believe in. At first the people just resisted for fear of having to yield their wills to God, but after the plague fell upon them, after they were anointed into their fears, they could not repent, for their fears were all that they had from the spirit of fear they that they had chosen to fully yield to. Their spirit is now the spirit of fear and unbelief and this is who they have become, for they have given themselves over to it. This is how life works continually and in the present. We are given light, and if we accept it we are anointed into that light. The light becomes who we are. But if one resists that light, and knowingly chooses the lie after being enlightened and warned by God's trumpet, he is now anointed into that lie and has the spirit of it continually. He becomes the lie that he has chosen. He is fully created into the image of the adversary of God.
Physical plagues have very little real meaning to people. The people simply call the government in to declare a state of disaster, and then the government prints up some more money to put the people in debt with low interest loans to repair the damage. This is not so in the realm of the Spirit. For those who suffer the vial upon their characters, decreeing them unchangeable, there is an eternal effect for them. No government "aid" can repair the damage. A truly lasting plague is in the invisible world, transforming the soul into the beast he has loved.
The second trumpet blows: "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed." Revelation 8:8-9 (1989). "Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain." Jeremiah 51:25. The people of God are called the mountain of God. They are Mount Zion. A burnt mountain is one that was once the mountain of God, but since has burned up. "Because of the mountain of Zion, which is desolate, the foxes walk upon it." Lamentations 5:18. When a mountain is burned, then the mischief makers intrude upon it, and that is what has happened with a false gospel, the gospel of the modern church. This false gospel came as a reaction against the pure word of light that was previously given. This trumpet blows and shows the churches that something like a great burning mountain was cast into their midst and a third of the creatures in the sea of people, died. That "something like a great burning mountain" is a good representation of burning earth. It is a great polluter. The churches were shown their fallen state, their earthly, instead of heavenly lives, but they rebelled against the message and would not repent. Because of this, the second plague was poured out a little later and every living soul died in that sea of people who had rejected the Word of the Lord. This was their response to the trumpet blowing.
The people of God had blown the trumpet and shown the professed believers that a portion of them had died and apostatized, but when all who heard the trumpet blow reacted against that truth saying, "We are all holy, it is not as you say," the Spirit of life left them, for they were openly calling the Spirit a liar.
In our recent trip to make a movie of the churches, we found the results of this trumpet, for we found no life in them at all. It reads that 1/3 of the ships were destroyed. The people all say, "Stay with the ship, it's going through no matter what it looks like," but their ships have been sunk in the midst of the sea, the spirit of the world. After they had rejected the blowing of this trumpet, everything died in the sea of people. The other 2/3 perished in the abyss that they had chosen. The shipmasters mourned for "no one would buy their merchandise anymore." They could no more be truly converted. Instead they attended meetings for music or dinner. They attended to celebrate, but a changed heart into the image of God's heart, would no more be found in them. This great mountain also represents the great false gospel of that burnt mountain. It leaves the people desolate and in their own blood instead of the blood of Christ. They remain in their sins. Their gospel is a burnt up mountain, powerless to convert the soul.
In a very personal way we saw these events in our own congregations as well. In 1989 I received a most vivid vision showing Satan coming out from behind a cloud and directly pointing at me, indicating his anger directed toward the "Gift" that is of God. The finger was also a finger of accusation against me and that he would put that spirit of accusation into men. The very next day after this vision, the very first accusation was hurled my way and letters of accusation were written by those who had come to have their waters polluted by the spirit that had fallen from heaven. It seemed to some souls that I spoke too plainly, and laid bare the deceptions of the soul too vividly. I offended the pride of man. The cloud that I saw was similar to the depictions that show the cloud by day, under which the children of Israel travelled in their wilderness wanderings. Satan was now going to play God and bring fearfulness to the professed followers of God to make them believe that it was actually God Who was accusing me. He would seek to destroy their faith while they followed the cloud. Satan pretended to be coming from that cloud while actually he appeared from behind it.
A great mountain as it were, in the form of a man who previously had been used greatly by God, was cast down into the sea of our people, and we saw 1/3 of them turn to blood almost overnight. They spiritually perished before our very eyes. We saw an unclean and lying spirit enter into the people who had turned to blood. We saw this occur in the churches of the land also. We have seen this spirit greatly increase over the course of the years because of this great mountain cast into the sea. Now, we can see this even today in the secular world all around, but it is greatest in those we once knew personally. This is not a strange thing, but only the fulfillment of the prophecy as it is written. A soul totally given over to the adversary, reveals itself by strong and lying reports. The soul with this fallen spirit reveals itself by strong assertions, and manufactured visions, for his attack upon righteousness. It appears to be a personal thing, as it was with the lying reports which were freely circulated about the "man" Jesus, but it is actually a spiritual event, occurring deep down in the secrets of the soul, and affecting ever afterward the whole direction and life of the soul. The lying spirit is gross in its exaggerations and manipulations of the truth. In the natural world we were all witnesses to this in the political arena. Great distorted assertions are made by men who have none of the Spirit from above. The people of God stand in awe at how Satan brings his people into the world of vain imagination. This is the result of something like a great burnt up mountain cast into the sea of people.
The third trumpet blows: "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." Revelation 8:10-11.
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell (the world of the dead), to the sides of the pit (prison)." Isaiah 14:12-15.
Here is a star who fell from heaven. He thought to ascend into heaven and be exalted above all of the stars of God. He thought to be great and sit with the very highest of the high. He had enormous self-interest and self-love. One of the great characteristics of Satan is that he has a bitter spirit. He poisons the soul. He is resentful of the Father's way and the way of His Messiah. He is jealous that God has a Son, and it is not himself. The churches began to poison their congregations against the truth, because they saw the power it had over their congregations to set them free of the ecclesiastical authorities and the denominational gods. Lucifer had set himself up in the pulpits of the land and he did not want to lose his power over the people. The fountains of waters where people come to drink, were made bitter against the truth. The plague to follow was that the rivers of water became blood. They became death. When men rebel against the truth, they die and there is much bloodshed, much loss of true spiritual life.
We saw this revealed in our own congregation in 1994. We saw a star fall from heaven, and his fruit was bitterness. He resented the loss of his "high" position that he thought he had had. He was made to inhabit a town of ghosts, "the world of the dead." Others, who drank of his bitterness, were also affected and wanted to write letters and pamphlets and books against the truth, formulated from the huge imaginations of evil that they had in themselves. They attacked the people of God, accusing them of the very motivations that they themselves had in their own dark hearts.
The church of God is a parable of the entire earth. We can see events within our own midst that play out the pattern of earth. We can watch the events of prophecy unfold within our own walls and our own associations, for these events are universal and not simply local manifestations of the spirit realm. When Adam and Eve fell, they first wore for clothing dead leaves, but those dead leaves could also be seen in the entire earth as the leaves fell from the trees for the first time. The trees, representing men, wore dead leaves also.
The fourth trumpet is a transition. It was the time of The WINDS publication, when the lights of heaven (the religious world) and earth (political world) were shown to have been darkened. This introduced not only the trumpets regarding the apostate church, but the secular world as well. The fourth trumpet began with Shillum, and ended with The WINDS. For 3 1/2 years Shillum and The WINDS poured out the trumpet blast. "And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise." Revelation 8:12. The result which came because men were against this trumpet, was that they blasphemed God because of the great heat that burned them from the inside as they read the judgments concerning themselves. They were angry. This was because they would not repent. The trumpets never announced that all had died, but only that some had. Because the message was refused, then all men would die who had rejected the light, as a reaction to that light given. When a soul hears the truth and rejects it, he has a spiritual death occur within himself, and now he can only see through the eyes of the flesh, and he is turned to blood. He is actually anointed with the vial into a spirit that will never leave him, for he is sealed into it. That is, he is joined indissolubly to it. That soul's marriage to that spirit is "incapable of being annulled, undone, or broken. It is permanent." (Webster)
Now was to come the Woe trumpets. The previous warnings were primarily given to the fallen churches of the world because the judgments of God were to begin with the professed people of God. Now the trumpet would go into the the world in general, and its reactions to the trumpets would now be made manifest. The message would go out even unto the ends of the earth and to the secular world as well, because the secular world had a profession of goodness. We saw these reactions in the political and felt them. The woe trumpets are blown because these events actually intrude upon the welfare of the people. They are not just spiritual trumpets of a man's condition, but very real physical ramifications occur because of them. These trumpets affect the world in a very real way. The word "woe" means, "deep suffering and misfortune."
The fifth trumpet is blown: "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven (one having a place of power) unto the earth (the natural world): and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon." Revelation 9:1-11.
The bottomless pit is the ever fallen darkness of earth. There is no bottom in this smokey abyss. There is nothing to stand on and to find support in. A fallen star was given a key to this pit. This great star was the president of the United States in 1999. He fell from a place of power and authority and he was one who had fallen down into a scandal of the worst kind. It was a scandal of the violation of trust between himself and a young person in his charge. To this star that had fallen morally, there was given a key. He was given a way to open the deep abyss and bring onto the earth a poisonous sting that would torture men. He caused war upon a nation that had done him no wrong. Out of the pit arose lies and deception introducing the nation into its war on Serbia. Locusts, "flying creatures" came out of the pit and they were commanded to destroy infrastructure, but the great emphasis was not to destroy men. The threats and outright force lasted five months. The sounds of these flying machines were as many horses running to battle. They had stingers in their tails, and the name of the angel of the bottomless pit, who was their king, was "destroyer." They destroyed wonderfully. The smoke out of the pit caused a great darkness which caused men to not be able to see the truth of why this war was being waged. Deception was used and distortion of the truth to pull off this war.
This was all trumpeted on The WINDS. Because of this, and because the fallen angel was not judged righteously, the WINDS left the beast in darkness, and would shed no more light upon his way. This occurred when The WINDS closed its doors and the church prepared to go into the wilderness for 3 1/2 years. The fifth plague is that the national government would be left in complete darkness. This was done. This was a great plague, for because of this darkness many more great disasters would come upon them and they would not be able to see how to avert them. This rejection of truth by Washington, was not just seen in rejection of The WINDS. There were many other voices blowing the trumpet with us all over the world. Now, more than ever before, Washington is left to itself, and it still stands in its darkness, unable to see anything in its true light. Now Washington stands in the midst of its worshippers and adversaries, but the true intercessors have been silenced.
"And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds." Revelation 16:10-11. This has occurred. They spoke out in their anguish, accusing others for their darkness. They spoke against God, blaspheming God by speaking against the truth sent to them. This was a result of the fallen star who had the key to the bottomless pit, and he used it. Now this pit will never be closed, and gross imaginations, lies, and deceptions will characterize every movement of men. The year of the beginning of this great darkness was 1999.
As the church began her sojourn in the wilderness, the sixth trumpet was blowing: "One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand (two indefinitely large numbers of people): and I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts." Revelation 9:12-21.
The second Woe is the war in Iraq. The announcement went out concerning this war, and announcing that it was coming through the power of sorceries, and murder, and thievery. We announced this gross injustice and countless others announced it also as the trumpet was blown. We warned the nations clearly, and published our reports openly, along with many other voices over the entire earth. This announcement included the truth that there were four angels (messengers) who held the winds of strife, and the winds of strife would now be let go. The plague that would follow was that the powers of the east would now have a way made for them, and the river of political support for the west would dry up.
There are four angels (messengers) that stand out particularly. They were bound up in Iraq and had been for years. Now, because of Saddam, the four angels were loosed. They were George Bush, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condoleezza Rice. These four messengers, more than any other, put forth great effort to unleash the winds of strife upon the land of the Euphrates. They joined together, and forced their will upon the whole world, yet, it was to be, for they were prepared for just this hour as the Scriptures stated. God has unleashed "His great army" to punish the earth for its corruption and unholiness. In the end, even the desolator will come to desolation.
This war in Iraq is being waged by two "innumerable" groups of people. They are the people of a form of Christianity, against the people of Islam. This is the setting up of the battle of God, which is Armageddon. What divine justice, for two groups of people, both claiming to be of God, to take to the field against each other, ultimately bringing both to their end. This same Armageddon is taking place in our own souls as the truth wars with the lie in each of us. In the realm of the soul, how wonderful to watch two powers, the power of the naturally self-interested soul and the power of God, battle for the final victory. In each soul are these two powers, both claiming to be of God. One power will win the battle for the soul. When the earthly powers battle against each other, both are brought to their end, for they are all just flesh, all as the grass. With the true believer, the last of his earthliness will be removed in the great battle of the Day of God. This is our present time.
There is another event that happened during this trumpet. The Scriptures read that the seven thunders sounded. This occurred in the wilderness, when God's voice went through the earth as thunder and the people of God rejoiced over hearing it. These thunders could be heard only by them, and interpreted rightly by them. But when the world heard the thunder, they did not understand the words, and they reacted in fear and uncertainty, for they saw terrorists and false christs all around them. In the world, they must make war against their terrorists, but in the Spirit, God's children are unafraid, for they yield fully and unquestioningly to the will of the Father. At every thunder the people praised Him as His voice rolled through the earth. The thunders introduced some very real events in the wilderness, and these events were broadcast to all who would hear. Those who needed terrorists were also listening for the broadcast of their christ who boasted of ridding the world of evil. Both of the messengers sent, were to rid their world of evil. Each kingdom was purifying its host to be 100% married to the plan of the one who led them.
This time was the time when the events of the Marriage of the Lamb occurred. It was the time when the true Messiah, Michael, stood up. This all occurred at the time the angels were released in the Middle East, and especially Iraq where the Euphrates river flows. The seven thunders uttered their voices and revealed things hidden from the foundation of the world. The people who were of God heard the Voice and responded to it. The warning was given, "Behold, I come as a thief, blessed is he who has clean garments, so that he does not end up ashamed." The people must have on the wedding garment for their Marriage to God.
The true and the false messiah appeared at the same time. Michael came teaching the people for 1260 days, and the false christ used deceit to enslave and mislead the earth when he was unloosed to spread the winds of strife. The kings of the east for the world, are the terrorists it must now face. The kings of the east for the church, are Michael and those who came with Him to consummate the Marriage and to decree judgment upon the nations. "And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations." Isaiah 25:7. "They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea." Isaiah 11:9. This was a blessed time for the children of God, for the Father in heaven used His Messiah to remove the vail that blocked their view of real and eternal issues. They came to understand what being married to God entailed. The earthly christ was saying, "You are either 100% for us or 100% against us. The God of heaven was saying, "You are either married only to Me, or you are married only to the earth." Both kingdoms gave out their pronouncements. Trumpets were blown for heaven and earth.
Also during this time, according to the Scriptures, the temple was measured to see who was in it. This measuring began in the year 2000. It was the temple of the marriage to God. The Gentiles were outside trampling the city underfoot attacking the Marriage as offensive, but the people of God were being measured. They were being tested to see who would enter into the feast with the provided wedding garments on, and who would not. Some were taken along side, while others were left desolate. This all occurred under the sixth trumpet and the sixth plague.
This marriage to God had very real ramifications. What it meant was that men were no longer married to their earthly spouses. They were no longer married to their children, but every soul was married only to God. This marriage to God was not merely a "spiritually speaking" marriage. It was real. I have seen those who remained "married" to their wives or husbands. They ended up rejecting the truth because their spouses did not flow with it. They were bound to humans in a spiritual, mental, and physical co-dependency, and they followed their spouses and children into unbelief, doubt, and criticism, rather than follow the Father Who decreed the marriage of Himself to the bride. Souls who are married to God are not influenced against the Spirit by those in their families or circle of friends, to any degree. Their only influence is the influence of the Spirit. These souls do not own any other soul, nor are they owned by any other souls. This means they no more, forever, have conflicts between themselves; there is never any arguing or fighting in the family, for those things only occur in earthly marriages, but never in the heavenly one, because the soul is married to God alone. The simple truth is, when one follows his true Husband, he is left with a sweet, respectful Spirit at all times, and there is never any contention.
Now, since the midst of the week of years, the seventh trumpet is sounding: "The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." Revelation 11:14-19.
There has never been a time on earth when the message of truth has been so clear. Christ reigns and there is nothing the earth can do to change it now. The kingdoms of this world belong to God and His Messiah, for He has overcome the world in all things. At this time also, the nations are angry that the wrath of God is come, and the time of judgment has begun. The winds of strife have been unloosed. God will destroy those who destroy the earth, by letting the destroyer whom they have loved and chosen, be released into it. The temple is open in heaven, and all men are allowed to see the truth of what they have created, and they are left enraged. All men can read these words given here, for heaven has been opened to them, to see the law of God as it is. The mysteries are finished and everything is revealed. The seventh plague is poured out: "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great." Revelation 16:16-21.
This trumpet announces that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ. The plague announces, "It is done." There is a great earthquake and also much hail now sweeping away the refuge of lies. This is the time in which we now live. We are in the end of everything prophesied.
What evidence can we see of these things? The evidence is that we observe how men are totally given over to Satan. I received a call the other morning at 1:30 A.M. The caller raged on for over an hour against me, imagining all kinds of mischievous and sinister ghosts. We have had many communications with people, both on the phone and on the Internet, and the people demonstrate that they have lost their minds and are now fully controlled by the spirit of satanic agencies. Mankind is unable to think coherently through the process of his difficulties. They just lash out at the shadows of their minds and have no power to control them or to recognize their true mental state. They think their ghosts are real, and they cannot repent of them. This is the time in which we now live. It is the time when great numbers cannot repent, for they cling to the demons that torment them and enslave them. The kingdom of the Spirit has no part with them.
These things mentioned here are cumulative. All the plagues are falling, for all of the trumpets have sounded. We are in this last event. These events today are mirrored in the fall of Jerusalem after Christ Jesus appeared unto them. He ascended into the heavens and the final things were brought upon the city that would soon be destroyed. The last plagues fell on Jerusalem, finally leaving it completely ruined. So it is today. The Messiah, Michael, appeared in His time, and now the final ruin of the world is assured, because the people would not receive the One sent by the Father to save them from their own self destruction. They will not repent of their crimes, their sorceries, and their great lie. The people of God ascend into the heavens and rest in the Father of light, while the beast and the false prophet plunge into the lake of fire, where there is no rest day or night. Those with the mark of the beast gnash their teeth and gnaw their tongues because of their spiritual agony and they blaspheme God and His Messiah for intruding upon their good, self congratulating, self image.
The people of God now sing. "And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints." Revelation 15:3.
The Sabbath, the Rapture, and the Two Witnesses
Question: Who are the two witnesses - Moses and Elijah some say, others say Old and New Testament?
What are your views on the rapture and the 7 year tribulation?
What are your views on the Sabbath? Friday Sunset to Saturday sunset?
Steve and Marlene
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Michael: The Sabbath: What is written in the law?: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 20:8-11.
In this command do many trust. They trust it by keeping Saturday as the Sabbath. This day is the symbol of the greater rest which is from above. It was Saturday keepers who crucified Christ. It was Sunday keepers who persecuted the Protestants, burning many of them at the stake. People who keep days only, are those who crucify the Son of God today. "Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years." Galatians 4:10.
The book of Hebrew records, "For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works." Hebrews 4:3-4.
This portion of Scripture from Hebrews is dealing with Israelites in the wilderness who kept Saturday, the seventh day, but they did not keep the Sabbath. They did not find the rest which is of God, even though they found the right day. Again it is written: "Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief." Hebrews 4:6.
It is right that men keep the Sabbath day holy, but it is better that they know the true Sabbath of the heart and Spirit, for if a man keep the day on the calendar and miss the day of the heart, his Sabbath keeping is for nothing. Jesus said, "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Matthew 5:27.
In like manner, you have heard that it was said by them of old time, "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy:" But I say unto you that whosoever is offended at his brother, or is angry without cause, and whoever argues with his wife, or she with her husband, has already broken the Sabbath in their heart. Whoever has doubted the Lord God, or felt that life is unfair and chafed at the mistreatment of himself by others, has broken the Sabbath. And whoever has fearfully drawn back from following the Father's instructions to his heart for fear of what may happen to him, has broken the Sabbath.
The Rapture: The rapture, commonly called "the secret rapture" is not in the Scriptures. As a fact, there are many Scriptures against such an idea. The word "rapture" is not in the Bible. The dictionary definition of rapture is: "spiritual or emotional ecstasy." This doctrine first appeared in the 19th century and in the very beginning of the Pentecostal movement. The "speaking in tongues" also came in with the rapture theory. Both of these doctrines also came with a new interpretation of the 70 weeks or 490 years prophecy, making the last week of years cut off until some time in the future. The apostate Christian world accepted "futurism." This cutting the week off was called the "gap" theory. Their theory certainly has a gap in it. These doctrines and other nonsense were foisted upon the Christian world over the past 150 years or so, making men completely unprepared for the actual appearing of Jesus Christ in the flesh as they were made unprepared for the appearing of Jesus in his generation. The word rapture does not mean what the rapture doctrine has made it to mean. Some hold that the doctrine is that souls will be secretly whisked off into the ether sometime before the appearing of Christ. The Scriptures teach clearly that the believers will be present for the great time of trouble. That time we are now in, and the believers are here to see it. This is not future, it is NOW.
Ask the Iraqis if they have not entered a great time of trouble. Ask those surrounding the Indian ocean if they have not entered it. Ask the millions who are slaves to debt. Ask the news media. Ask the true believer who is surrounded on every side by unbelief, ridicule and persecution because he is true to his heart. Ask the soldiers who are in prison because they refuse to fire upon Iraqis for conscientious reasons.
One of the main points with some who believe in the secret rapture, is that it will occur before the antichrist appears. Antichrist has already appeared. There is one clear definition as to what an antichrist is. It is written:
1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Antichrist is one who denies that Jesus Christ "is come" in the flesh and not, "has come" in the flesh. Modern man says, "Oh I am not an antichrist, because I believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh back in ancient times." This is not the meaning of this text of Scripture. Anyone, including the historian Josephus, states that a man named Jesus, who was called the Christ, appeared in Jerusalem 2000 years ago. This is not a test for any man. What John was saying clearly, is that any man who rejected the faith that God, that Christ, came and appeared in human flesh is the antichrist. He is against the appearing of Jesus Christ in human flesh. Antichrist is one who does not receive the truth that God came into human flesh and walked around on this earth and talked to men. After Pentecost, they knew that Jesus Christ had come to them and now they had Him in their flesh. Jesus said it himself: "But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." Matthew 10:23. "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." Matthew 16:28. The cities of Israel were covered centuries ago, and the people standing there are all long dead.
At this assertion that God was in Jesus Christ, many Christians would nod in agreement until I tell them what this means, for I have come and told them that Jesus Christ has appeared in my flesh. Suddenly, these same people will hold up their hands and say, "False Christ, false Messiah." An antichrist is one who denies that Jesus Christ has come in MY flesh. So, modern religion and modern man has again received the spirit of antichrist as he did thousands of years ago when Jesus walked the earth. The second coming of Christ is when Jesus Christ again appears in the flesh, for it is written: "When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day." 2 Thessalonians 1:10. "To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory." Colossians 1:27. So, the hope of glory is not the rapture. It is the appearing of Christ in us. It is when Jesus Christ once again appears in the flesh, but not in only one soul, but in all of the souls who believe our testimony. "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren." Romans 8:29.
In the day of Christ Jesus, the inhabitants of Jerusalem chose Barabbas as their Messiah. He was the zealot who promised to free the Jews from the Romans. Today men have chosen another christ than the one which is true. Some have chosen the zealot who is their president. He promises to "rid the world of evil." Others have chosen the United Nations. Jesus warned against earthly deliverers. There is only one true deliverer, and that is the One Who comes into the soul as lightning flashes from the east unto the west. There is only one Christ and He is sent from the Father to come in human flesh, and by this, men are saved from their sins and from their old world.
The words that might resemble what the rapture theorists believe, are the words "caught up." "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1Thessalonians 4:17. The words, "caught up" come from the Greek word, harpazo, which means, to seize, catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take. Paul used this word when he spoke of himself. "How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." 2 Corinthians 12:4. Paul was saying that he had been "caught up" into heaven, but he did not know if he actually went, or just saw it in vision. He said that he was "caught up" into the third heaven and that would be where God dwells. What will happen to the children of men who have received the second appearing of Christ into themselves, is that they will be "caught up" into the third heaven. This is the message, and it will not be very secret.
Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring (lead away) with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not go before them which are asleep (dead). For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout (a cry to arouse to action), with the voice of the archangel (Michael), and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain (are left surviving, standing around waiting to go) shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17.
This would not be called rapture, but a catching up. We are "caught up" to the third heaven. "So shall we ever be." There are many theories as to how this will look, and it does not matter how it looks. What matters is that it is certain that the only ones "caught up" are those in whom Christ has appeared the second time in their flesh. Then, Christ will take us with Him. When He ascends, we ascend, for He is in us ascending. And we ascend into the clouds where He dwells. Christ is not an earthly Being, but a heavenly Being, and we are "caught up" to be heavenly beings with Him where He is. This is occurring now and will be completed by the end of the great time of trouble in which we now live.
The Two Witnesses: Every generation has had its two witnesses. They are the evidence of the present truth. When the earth was created, the two witnesses were Adam and Eve. When Israel was taken from Egypt, the two witnesses were Moses and Aaron. When Christ appeared in human flesh the witnesses were Jesus and John the Baptist. The Scriptures themselves come in the form of two witnesses, the Old and the New Testaments. "... In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." 2 Corinthians 13:1.
The two witnesses of Revelation 11 appeared in October of 2000. They bore witness that Jesus Christ had appeared in my flesh. When Jesus Christ appeared in me, the two witnesses appeared with me, also. It is said of them:
Revelation 11:1
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.Note: The temple is measured by the testimony of the two witnesses. One can know he is the temple of the living God if he receives their testimony.
Revelation 11:2
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.Note: The Gentiles were not measured as the temple, for they could not receive the testimony that Jesus Christ had come in my flesh. They would trample on the holy city for the time of the testimony of the two witnesses.
Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.Note: They prophesied and gave their testimony for 3 1/2 years. This time ended in the spring of 2004.
Revelation 11:4
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
Revelation 11:5
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.Note: Anyone who tried to hurt the witness of the witnesses was thwarted over this period of testimony. They could not kill the testimony but it was completed on time. When anyone would breathe fire and offense against the two witnesses, the fire of revelation would be given back. Many called for their theological rocks and mountains to hide them from the witness of Christ's return. Many wept and gnashed their teeth as it is written that they would.
Revelation 11:6
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.Note: During the height of their testimony, the west was in a "500-year" drought. This was a sign that the testimony was being given. After the testimony finished, there was abundant rain restored. What they prophesied came to pass. The entire testimony was to show that Jesus Christ comes in the flesh of the believers, and that that constitutes the second coming of Christ. Those who receive this message, are measured as the temple of God. "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" 1 Corinthians 3:16. Those who do not receive their testimony are the Gentiles who rise up to kill their testimony. In this they kill the witnesses and rejoice that they had made the testimony invalid. But this testimony will prove true, for the prophecy states that they will rise up and ascend. "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them." Revelation 11:12. "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
Do Christians Have Fleshly Desires?
Question: You seem to say that when God is in you and you are sons of God there are no fleshly desires... Lots of saints in the bible sinned and did not always follow what God told them to do. So Does that mean they are not saved? or what does that mean? I am born again but not perfect. I know that- but the blood of Christ covers my sins, that is why He died for us. That is what I have always been taught.
Linda E.
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Michael: You seem to be ignorant of basic principles of the Scriptures. I don't mean this as an offense, however, this confusion you verbalize is very prevalent in present day Christianity. I will try to answer you as simply as I can. Do the sons of God have fleshly desires? Yes. For myself, I feel hunger occasionally. Hunger is purely a desire of the flesh. Sometimes I feel cold. The desire for warmth is purely a desire of the flesh. A spirit needs not concern itself with temperature.
When you say lots of people in the Bible sinned, it proves nothing. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Eze 18:20. We are not made to be judge of other men and other men have nothing to do with you. I will here quote a very clear passage of Scripture that almost all professed Christians deny. Read it carefully and literally:
You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who does right is righteous, as he is righteous. He who commits sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God commits sin; for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God. By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother. 1 John 3:5-10.
This Scripture is exceptionally clear and it means what it says. I will rephrase. "You know that Christ appeared and came to take away our sins rather than leave us in them. We know that He had no sin in him. No one who abides in Christ sins and no one who sins has ever seen Christ as He really is, or knows Christ at all. Little children, don't let the modern day false prophet deceive you. He who does right is righteous just as Christ is righteous. He who commits sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. Not one who is born again, sins, for God abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born again and is not the old man any longer. You can know if one is a child of God or a child of the devil by whether he sins or not."
Yes, the sons of God feel feelings, but they do not live after their feelings, they live after the Spirit. It is clearly written: "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Romans 8:14. With this light, how is it that the blood of Christ covers our sins? Is the blood of Christ like molasses and it just oozes over our sins and hides them? No. The blood of Christ is the Life of Christ. His Life covers our sins. That is to say, We now live His Life, and our natural man is covered, and subdued by the Life of Christ. We now live by His life, and not by our own natural life. We follow after the Spirit as He did, and not follow the natural desires of the flesh as we have before. God's desires now become our desires. We now want what He wants. We have the Mind of Christ as it is written: "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus." Philippians 2:5. This is the gospel. This is the glory that is of God, where fallen men are redeemed to the image of God by the Life of Christ. We become Christ's body and the Son of God lives out His own character within us. This is the truth, and this is the Second Coming of Christ. "When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day." 2 Thessalonians 1:10. I will say it again: When He shall come to be glorified by being manifested in His saints, and to be admired in all them that believe because they believed the testimony of Jesus in that day."
Yes, Jesus died and provided for us His perfect obedience. Jesus did not retaliate on the cross. He did not get back at his enemies. Now, with his Life, neither shall we get back at our enemies. We can draw on the life of the Son and be as obedient as He was. This is the clear statement of the Scriptures. This is a terror only to those who want to remain in their sins. For those who do not want to remain in their sins it is a comfort, for they yield up to this truth, and immediately experience the warm, and peaceful flow of the Father's righteousness within them. We worship the God of righteousness, and this is not the self-righteousness of modern religion. This yielding causes the soul to lay down, and wait patiently for the filling of the Spirit. The Spirit is the life of Christ. It is the infilling that saves the soul. A soul that sins is not saved, for how can a man be saved from a pit that he continually falls into? There he is down in the pit professing that he is saved. This is obviously ridiculous. A man is saved when he is saved FROM his sins and from his pit.
Now you will be able to behold the glorious salvation which is of God. Men constantly try to be saved by their behavior, their good works, or their "right" beliefs, but this is impossible. We are only saved by His Life, functioning in us, and keeping us. "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." Romans 5:10
How are we "covered" by His blood? These are some of the definitions of "cover": "To guard from attack: to afford protection or security to: to make provision for (a demand or charge) by means of a reserve or deposit [the Seed or Life of God already in you]: to act as a substitute [in us] or replacement during an absence" [the absence of our will to live by our own natural human self any longer]. In other words, to be "covered" means, that God's Life is now our life, living in place of the life we had before. This is how Christ's Life is a substitute for our own. This is how He covers us.
One of the Biblical definitions of "cover" is "to forgive." We are forgiven our sins. The word "forgiven" means "to go." A forgiven sin is a gone sin.
Question: I am confused... who should we pray to if not Jesus, Michael? Is he our present day savior?
Linda E.
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Michael: The simplicity of prayer is often missed in the search for help. Some souls pray to Mary, the mother of Jesus. Some souls pray to Jesus. Then there are many other personages over the world prayed to by the entreating masses. A few basic principles clear the air.
First, there is only one God. There are not two or more Gods. Secondly, we pray continually day and night. When one understands these two basic principles, it changes the way he prays forever. One who sees rightly prays not to Jesus or Michael, even though he may pray "in their name." That is, he may pray in who they are. We may pray in the character of the Son of God. Again, that is, we pray as the Son of God prays to His Father. Jesus clearly stated how to pray. He said, Matthew 6:9: "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father." In this is the simplicity of prayer, but even this can be misunderstood.
Many of those in the recent tsunami prayed that very morning before they were carried out to sea. Prayer is meaningless unless one has the source of prayer within himself. An example is this. Let us suppose a soul is praying for safety to his god, but all the while fearing an accident. What would be his prayer? It would be a prayer for an accident. The fear would actually be a prayer. We generate prayers day and night in the way we connect with life. Job put it this way. Job 3:25: "For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me." A man can pray with words all he wants, but if he is "believing" something else than what he says in words, that something else is what is going to occur. Who you are is the answer to your prayers.
Why do things work this way? It is because there is only one God, and He dwells within you. You are continually in communication with "The Father." You are believing something, and communicating that belief through the Spirit that is within you. You bring to yourself good or evil, through the name (character) in which you pray. It is written: Psalms 145:16. "Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing." So, what is your desire? That is what will be satisfied. There are men who have loved war, so they place themselves in war and even though they prayed for safety, end up in the conflagration. They become a statistic.
When men pray to individuals outside of themselves (Jesus, Mary, or Michael) to get protection or help, they pray in vain. One should pray to the Father Who dwells in His temple and His temple is you. When you know this, and yield to this, you will find that your communications with God are intimate and you have a continual "knowing" as to what course to take. You pray when you are in your home, bathtub, or automobile. You communicate to the Father as a friend, without ceasing, and many of your prayers, if not most of your prayers may be without words, but you only have a strong drawing to the Father Who dwells in His temple, the temple of your own soul. Your spiritual scanner is always scanning to hear the Father's words to your soul. He delights you with bread in season, and He thrills your heart with grace and truth. You never fail, but ascend higher and higher into the ether of reality instead of spending your hours in vain reaction to the circumstances around you. You always know what to do, and you fear nothing. This was the life of Jesus. It is the life of Michael, and it is the life of every son of God.
Jesus or Michael, did not come to be a god. He came to show the deliverance that is in the Father in heaven. He came pointing to the Source of their strength. Jesus did not come so that men would paint his picture and open a Christian book store. He came to say to the multitudes, "Our Father."
Question: I always wondered what the four and twenty elders represent in Revelation 4:10 during our time in history?
Lillian
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Michael: The 24 elders, mentioned only in the book of Revelation, are part of the heavenly witness. Elders in the ancient social order were men of experience and understanding. These men were also present for the anointing of a king. They would bring the blessing to the king from the tribes that they represented. They brought the people's prayers (requests) to the king.
The number 24 is twice the kingdom number. It is two witnesses of 12. There are 12 tribes which constitute the nation of victorious Israel, the people of faith. What is important about these 24 presbyters, is what they do. What is their work and witness? It is clearly stated in the Scriptures:
Revelation 4:10-11
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.Revelation 5:14
And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Revelation 11:16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Revelation 19:4
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.These 24 elders said, "Amen." They worshipped God and agreed with Him. They rejoiced at all that He did. They also bear witness that God is worthy of worship. That He did all that He said He would do, and that His judgments were just. They bear witness that God is fair, for they have seen all that He has done. Cause and effect was handed out perfectly and justly. Also, in this reference, the elders are worshipping God. There is no reference to the Son as being worshipped. The Son has given His testimony that the Father was worthy of worship, and now the elders give their testimony also. Following this time of worship, the elders speak of the Son and give testimony that He is worthy to open the seals that have hidden the mysteries of time and the future. The Son is recognized as worthy and faithful, and the Father is worshipped.
There is one more thing that these elders do according to the Revelation. Revelation 5:8. "And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints." The 24 elders fell down and yielded to the Lamb who sacrificed Himself for the people. These elders received the prayers of the saints and took their witness before the Father. The elders in heaven did what the elders on earth did. They acknowledged the faithfulness of the king and brought the desires of the people before the king to be considered.
But why are these 24 elders necessary? Is it not well enough that there is God? The answer is in the character of God. God is fair, even to His adversaries, so He is certainly fair with His creation who acknowledges Him. It is written: Deuteronomy 19:15. "One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." The God of heaven works on the principle of agreement. Jesus said, in Matthew 18:19, "Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." Here in heaven are not just two witnesses to the Father's justice and the true desires of the saints, but 24 witnesses. They are before God with the acknowledgment of the prayers, the desires, of the saints. They acknowledge the truth as to how the saints are answered, and that the answers are just and fair.
When God took the children of Israel out of Egypt, He did so by agreement. The king of Egypt, and all of his host had to agree, and they did agree to let the children of Israel go. God is not a dictator. For this reason, all men, both saint and sinner will one day acknowledge that God has been just. Romans 14:11. "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."
The God of heaven did not give us the names of the elders, or where they came from. That is because these things are not the point. The point is that God has His witnesses, and they give their testimony, and all things done are done in the full light of day. These 24 witnesses stand before the transparent sea. Everything is laid open for all to see and acknowledge, and that even includes the acknowledgment before God of the prayers of His people.
There is one thing that the earth can be certain of. Everyone in heaven is watching. Perfect records are being taken of the actions and motives of all mankind. Nothing is hidden. God alone is not making the judgment, but there are thousands of other eyes watching the mystery being unfolded in the earth. Everything is acknowledged and recorded. This will give hope to the sons of God that their cases are open to all for acknowledgment, but the wicked, who have spent their years in hiding and secrecy, will find out that there were many eyes watching them, and looking on, while they thought they were alone in their evil practices, and they thought that no one could see. Woe to the politician who sold his soul for gain. Woe to the church minister who sold his soul for applause. Woe to the poor man who lied and conceived ways to justify his poverty. Woe to the rich who kept back that which was due others. But blessed are those who fall down and worship at the feet of One Who knows all things. Blessed are the pure in heart who only have one thing before them, and that is the worship of the king. Blessed are those who see God and acknowledge that all of His ways are just and true. Blessed are the transparent who see and are seen for who they are. Blessed are those who can say, Amen.
Who Are the 144,000?
Question: 1 Corinthians 15:20-34. But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
Rev. 7:4 - Show Context
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev. 14:1 - Show Context
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Rev. 14:3 - Show Context
And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.I have another question(s) for you that has been on my heart for a long time. I have figured it will just be how it will be. But I feel it would be best to be understood in its true light.
Could you share about the 144.000, it seems the different names for God's people are generally accepted but this number is more a topic of debate. And could you explain the association with 1 Corinthians 15:23, and the second coming?James
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Michael: The number 144,000 is the number given those who are saved in this last generation. I have discussed numbers previously. 666 is the number of man. It is a human number. 144,000 is the number given to the delivered. This number is rich in symbolism. Twelve is the kingdom number. There are twelve gates to the city. There were also twelve tribes and twelve Apostles representing the twelve tribes. Multiply the tribes by the kingdom number and you get 144. Multiply that by one thousand and you obviously get 144,000. Multiplying by a thousand is a reference to victory. When Moses sent men into battle it showed this principle. Numbers 31:6. "And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand." They were 12 thousand men. A thousand represents God's blessing. Deuteronomy 1:11. May the Lord, the God of your fathers, make you a thousand times as many as you are, and bless you, as he has promised you! Isaiah 60:22. "A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the Lord will hasten it in his time."
144,000 represents a people, blessed and a people, powerful. This can be seen in Revelation 19:11-16.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
This Scripture just quoted clearly shows that He Who comes on the horse for war is the Word of God. His Word is warring against the lie and His people are following that Word. It is a bloody war. Those who follow this Word Who rides upon the horse have perfect characters reflecting the Father's character. The sword of the Word comes out of His mouth against the perverse generation of His appearing. This day this is fulfilled in your hearing. His eyes are as a flame of fire. That is, He can see because of the light in His eyes. He isn't fooled by those who say they are His followers but are not. When the masses arise before the ball game and have a moment of silent prayer, He is not deceived by it. He can see right through the facade. He has eyes of fire, and so do all of those who follow Him. These souls are not deceived by those who speak kindly and in a friendly manner, but in whose hearts are deception and motivations to deceive.
There is one verse you did not include in your references. It is germane to the subject here. Revelation 14:4. "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb." This verse says that they are not defiled with women. Most specifically that word used for women is "wife." They are not defiled with wives. This verse intimates, "They are not defiled by their wife for they are as if they were unmarried." The Apostle Paul gives this advice. 1 Corinthians 7:29. "But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none."
This verse is probably the most important of all the references. It shows the nature of those with blessing and power. They are not moved to disobedience to the Voice of God by the voice of a spouse. There is no greater temptation on this earth than to listen to one's spouse instead of God. In the home there are little tensions and big tensions when God is leading one to move, but the spouse wants something else to move. She or he may not like all of that movement. This does not happen with those who are blessed and powerful. These souls listen to no one but the God of heaven. They are given the number of the delivered ones, for it is the number 144,000. This is the character of ALL who will be saved. There are not classes in the sons of God. They are all the same. They are perfectly obedient to all that the Father instructs them to do and not one will defer to the spouse, nation, job or church.
There are those who want to insist that this verse is a literal number of 144,000 male Israelites who are unmarried. This is impossible. For in no stretch of the imagination can 144,000 male Israelites be young women. That word used for "virgin" is a young unmarried woman. This Scripture is rich in symbolism and should be received as such.
The Scriptures say that these people who were sealed were from all of the tribes of Israel. The tribes of Israel in the flesh are no more. The Apostle Paul clearly explains the meaning of this:
Romans 9:6-8. "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."
Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob." Paul clearly referred to the Scriptures that say "all Israel will be saved." He said that one should make no mistake, and that is to make Israel flesh. There are many who point to Israel in the flesh and make them the people of God's special favor. This is not Scriptural, but devilish. The preachers today who preach these things are false prophets, for they mislead the ignorant into foolish paths.The 144,000 are not and never will be flesh, such as present day Jews or any other earthly tribe. The 144,000 are children of faith, who have believed the word and have not moved from it. They stand for the truth and no church or spouse can move them from the truth. Their characters are spotless.
All Israel will be saved, but it will not be the Israel of flesh. It will be the Israel of the Spirit. This now takes us to the specific Scripture that you made mention of.
I will restate that Scripture in my own words. It will be my own paraphrase.
But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the first product of those who have fallen asleep but will rise from the dead as He did. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the first One, then afterward, those who are Christ's at His appearing. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all earthly rule and all earthly and family authority and power over the soul. For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. That is, even the Christ will give it all up to the Father, and His Own kingdom given over to the Father, so that He rules over nothing, Himself, making God the One and Only and Everything. The soul at that time will only have reference to the Father only. He will listen to only that Voice, and none other will have his allegiance.
Paul's reference here is primarily about those who have died but the last reference is obviously speaking of the victory over death of every man. Those who have died will be raised, and those who are alive will be raised, never to die. Those who have died are not the 144,000. The 144,000 are those who have lived the life of Christ in this present life and ascend to heaven without having died. They have attained to victory over all earthly powers, including death. These souls are the present sons of God who appear with Christ at His coming. That is, they are as Christ is. They saw and recognized the truth, and they are the fruits of all the preceding generations. These souls are the conclusion of the ages. They translate to heaven without having died.
This group in this last day are the only ones who can sing the new song. It is the song of their experience. Christ was the firstfruits, and now they are the second fruits as Christ was the first. This song is the song of their deliverance. The Scriptures even offer the words to that song:
Revelation 15:3-4
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.This song reflects a people who trust everything that God has done and is doing. They never, ever, complain or fret. They always obey in everything. They are the fullness of Christ. Only they can sing this song, and only they can sing it without a sour note. This is the legacy of the present day believer.
Now I will make my last point. "They have the Father's name on their forehead." "God" is written there. The name is the character of a person. In ancient times, men were named for their character. This Scripture is saying of these sons, that the Father's character is inscribed upon their mind. The forehead is where decisions are made. It is the seat of judgment. Now the saints have in their seat of judgment the very nature and character of God. They are in the image of God and this is clearly the intention of the text. Christ at His coming, and His coming now is, is raising up His fruit, the fruit of His own character and life. These 144,000 who are alive will ascend with those who have gone before and died. Christ ascended first, then we who are His, will ascend at this present time as He did in His time. Before this "appearing" is completed, the dead will be raised, and the living will receive their new bodies, fashioned after His glorious body. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him, and this will divide the wheat from the tares. One will be taken along side, and the other will be left desolate and unmarried to God.
Question: Recently it came to me, stronger than ever before, that almost no one knows who God really is. My question is how does one turn from their idea of God into the reality of His Spirit? How do you go from Father in heaven to Daddy in my heart, from vindictive judge to Lover, from cruel schoolmaster to gentle Sweetheart, from a fearful God to a loving Friend that sings sweet songs to me in the night? It seems a lot of people would like to switch Gods.
Travis
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Michael: The torment of God comes to those who resist Him. The peace of God comes to those who do not. When one yields to what Father brings, he will always find that the Father brings justice and truth. When one is only concerned about himself, and resentful that life has dished out this or that unappreciated offering, the Father seems vindictive and judgmental. God only brings good, but the soul can receive it as good or evil, all depending on how he relates to what is given. If a soul would say, "No matter what Father, I am Yours and I will yield to whatever You bring to me, and I will obey all of Your instructions to my heart no matter what it costs me," then God is no longer the tormentor, but the loving Father. So, How does one do it? He does it!
Question: In the end of your answer to G.T., you spoke a little about Michael and Jesus. Would you please lay out clearly the connection?
Esther
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Michael: Michael and Jesus are the same Being. They are the Son of God. Saul is the same man as Paul, but the name changed when Paul did. The Son of God in Jesus came to reveal the sacrifice of God. He came to reveal the forgiveness of God and the character of God. When the Son comes as Michael, He comes to bring deliverance to the sons of God and to take them on home. The Son of God was Jesus when he saved His people from their sins. He was Michael when He wrestled with Jacob and gave Jacob deliverance. Names in the Scriptures have meanings. The name of Jesus means, God will help. The name of Michael means, Who is like God? Michael is a personal Savior, delivering every soul who will let Him, by "standing up" for that soul, withIN the soul, bringing it complete deliverance from its own natural human self. Jesus came and helped men for the time that they would be like God. Jesus came "riding on an ass" while Michael comes riding on a white horse. Jesus revealed the Father and Michael brings judgment to the generation who has had the Father revealed to them.
Question: You have shown us that every man, woman and child has been given the Seed of the Anointing, and has it within them. That "every child is Jesus". That Christ is our True Self, and that the difficulty of humanity is that they do not believe in this, but believe in the myriad of their imaginations and choose to follow the demons that rule this earth instead.
You have shown us that the deliverance of the saints is that they realize their True Self, and that they themselves are the Son of God. My question is this: What becomes of this Seed in the finally impenitent, those who finally choose to be married to the demons they have loved, instead of the Son that is within them? Does the Seed die within them? Is it possible for the Son of God to die? Or is it somehow taken from them?
Allasso
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Michael: It is written in the Scriptures and there is nothing ever made more clear than this, John 1:1-15
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
"There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
Even though this is very simple, I will clarify even more. In the beginning of all things the Word existed. This Word was born out of God and was called His Son. He gave birth to His Son. This is clearly stated in Proverbs 8. Everything that was created, was created by this Word, which was born out of the Father. In this Word was Life, and this Life lights every man. The darkness cannot understand this Light or lay hold of it. This Word was made into a fleshly being. That Word became flesh in the person of Jesus.
The Word becoming flesh is what man was created to be. "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27. Man was created to be the Word made flesh. We were created in God's image. We who have believed Him are born of God. The Son, the Word, are the Life within us. That is, this Life is the Life of all men. No one is exempt. Everyone has the Word speaking and living in them as did Jesus.
This life never leaves. It is never missing. There is not a place where God is not. How can God go away from something and yet still have it in existence? Impossible! If God were to leave us, we would cease to exist. The problem is, that after man was created in the image of God, man yielded to an alien spirit. This spirit is an adversary to the Voice which is from the Father. This adversarial voice contradicts the Word that is from above. This voice is the devil, Lucifer, who is opposed to the Light which lights every man.
The contest and controversy in this life is between these two voices. There is the Voice of truth, and the voice of fear, self interest, selfishness, and offense. The soul is continually confronted with these two voices, and he yields to one or the other. The soul becomes the Word made flesh, or the soul becomes the adversary made flesh. The one who is finally saved is one who is become the fullness of Christ. "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ." Ephesians 4:13. Did you hear that? "Till we ALL come to the full measure of Christ." That is, the measure of what Christ is, is the measure of ourselves. We are as Christ is. That is what the Word says to my own heart.
The wicked are finally destroyed by the Light which is of God. It is their resistance and adversarial standing against the Light that kindles a fire within them and consumes them. "Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations." Ezekiel 5:8. "Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee." Ezekiel 28:18.
This Seed does not die. This Word does not die. What happens is that men hide from this Word through drugs, alcohol, entertainments, and their love of the world. They try to drown out the Word Who is speaking to them. Their fears cause them to deny this Word. They stay busy denying the Light as best they can. The call of the satanic voice becomes the loudest, and drowns out the Voice which is from above. The messages in the churches are calculated to silence this Voice from heaven. The preachers say, "Oh, we are only human." And, "No one is perfect." They quiet the Voice that is being recognized by the soul. These false prophets also often dress differently than their church members to impress them with their own holiness and special position, when actually all men are in the same position. Every man is a son of God.
If men choose darkness rather than light, and refuse to be the Word made flesh, but become Satan made flesh, instead, then this very Light which lights every man will destroy them, for they will be consumed in their own resistance and rejection. Their strength of resistance will cause the fire to become white hot and they will be destroyed in it. It is the very same fire and Light in which the children of God live continually without getting burned up, because they do not resist it.
Isaiah 33:14-16
"The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling has seized the godless: “Who among us can dwell with the devouring fire? Who among us can dwell with everlasting burnings (everlasting Life)?” He who walks righteously and speaks uprightly, who despises the gain of oppressions, who shakes his hands, lest they hold a bribe, who stops his ears from hearing of bloodshed and shuts his eyes from looking upon evil, he will dwell on the heights; his place of defense will be the fortresses of rocks; his bread will be given him, his water will be sure."Hell fire is none other than the fire of God resisted. It is the soul itself who makes the fire of God, hell, instead of heaven. God cannot die, but every man will die who is consumed by the Light that is in him. On the other hand, those who have turned to the Light and let their own will and resistance die away, will find the voice of the adversary to be diminished. When a soul turns to the Light Who is within him, instead of the darkness, then that soul is called the son of God. He becomes the Word made flesh as he was created to be. He no longer listens to the voice of darkness but he only listens to the Voice of Light.
Satan has done a wonderful job of deception. He convinces men to gain heaven by their own works. These works are: To go to the "right" church, keep certain laws, pronounce the name of God right, or to believe certain doctrines. Satan convinces men to do their best to be good. This is his greatest delusion. This subtle trap was practiced on Eve. He said, Genesis 3:4-5. "Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." This subtle statement convinced Eve that she was not already "as God," knowing good and evil. She was convinced that she was not already in the image of God. She knew she was not to eat of this tree of doubt. God had already told her the truth, but upon this suggestion, she imagined she needed something which was not given. Satan came in the back door just as surely as a snake. She already knew the truth, but she received the notion that she did not know it. This is the nature of the modern preacher, who preaches that men need something more. They must do something more. They must join one of the false churches or believe one of the false doctrines to be saved. This is the hell that modern men face, it is the hell of their own misperception. This is why I have called you out of the churches, for they are your delusion and confusion. They cannot help you, and neither can you help them.
The truth is, God has come into you, but that truth will only burn you up if it is resisted. If a soul chooses the adversary, and the kingdom of darkness, then that Light in you will annihilate you. It is the law. Men live only because they do not resist righteousness, but they die when they do. Those who are consumed in righteousness cannot be destroyed, for they have life eternal and that Life lights them, making them the Word made flesh. THIS IS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST!
Question: This evening, I have been considering the Roman numerals on the back of the one dollar bill, that reflect the number of the beast. It confounds me that this is so, for these numerals, strictly deciphered, are 1776, which are an obvious referral to the date of the American Revolution. Or are they? From what You have shown, they are not.
These numerals have in them the number 666. This is derived from dividing the Roman numeral into three parts (M /DC/ C /LX/ X /VI), so as to make the numerals hold this value. It seems the reference of the "city" divided thusly, may be the key. These questions came to me: Why do you suppose the hidden meaning would be attached to a Roman numeral? Is it because they are deferring to the symbolic power of Rome as the catholic church? And also, by using it, perhaps they thought they could hide the mystery of their true intentions?
These "occult" things confound me, for if they are trying to hide something, why would they want to give any clue at all? Is this behavior the "setting up" of themselves for a fall, which is sure to be found in Father's Justice? It seems Father's hand in the Truth is what is behind everything we see in these things.Marrow
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Michael: 1776 was also the date for the establishment of the secret society of the Illuminati. The Illuminati and the United States were both established at the same time. Those who established the United States were mostly Masons. George Washington was a Mason. This secret society of the "Illuminati" infiltrated the Masons and the Masonic symbols are what we see all over Washington D.C. and the dollar bill. The secret society put its birthdate on the bill, and in that year of birth is hidden the old number of the secret mysteries of Babylon, 666. Your point is well taken that the city, "Illuminati" was divided into three parts. Those three parts were, the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. These three parts are the power of the system. The dragon (Satan) is the spiritual force, the beast is the government, and the false prophet is one who continually prophesies in its favor. These days the media constitute the false prophet, while the churches of the nation ride on the back of the beast. You may find this fact in Revelation 17. The number was divided into 600, 60 and 6. These numbers dividing the 666 are 1110. That is, 1000, 100, and 10. Divide this sum by 2 and you have 555. The Washington Monument is exactly 555 ft. high.
There are many images in America that have been hidden in mystery, but are as obvious as a snake in the road if one is watching where he is going. Most Americans, however, are "stupid." They sit with their mouth agape, drooling, and completely unaware of the hole that they are stepping into. All around them are the signs and symbols of the secret mysteries, yet almost no one pays attention. Americans are in a first class cult, and they follow a false messiah, a false christ, who meets in secret chambers, but they are unaware. But, truly, "all the world wondered after the beast." Jesus warned against following false christs who meet in secret, but most Americans are quite sure they are following the true Christ. In this they greatly err.
There is a token provided us that shows that men are slaves these days. This token is found in the Scriptures. They read: "Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant (slave) for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise." Deuteronomy 15:17. In Israel, one could choose to be a slave forever by having his ear pierced with an aul. This is quite interesting in the light of this subject, for these days the great majority of woman and many men have their ears pierced. It is the true sign of a slave. The money cult has very literally enslaved the entire country and the world. They are bound to indebtedness. This is their bondage, and "bondage" is the very definition of a slave. The United States government even sells what are called, "Bonds," as it goes into bond-age to the money cult.
This cult has its signs on its medium of exchange and even tells us what it is about in those symbols. There is a pyramid on the back of the dollar. On the top of that pyramid is the all seeing eye. This eye is referred to in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It reads:
"2.1. It is indispensable for our purpose that wars, so far as possible, should not result in territorial gains: war will thus be brought on to the economic ground, where the nations will not fail to perceive in the assistance we give the strength of our predominance, and this state of things will put both sides at the mercy of our international AGENTUR; which possesses millions of eyes ever on the watch and unhampered by any limitations whatsoever. Our international rights will then wipe out national rights, in the proper sense of right, and will rule the nations precisely as the civil law of States rules the relations of their subjects among themselves."
Another interesting quotation from this book appropriately numbered Protocols 6.6 is: "What we want is that industry should drain off from the land both labor and capital and by means of speculation transfer into our hands all the money of the world, and thereby throw all the nations into the ranks of the laboring class. Then the nations will bow down before us, if for no other reason but to get the right to exist."
The nations are now beholding the great generosity of "international aid" for those who have been swamped by the tsunami that struck their land in Asia. This international aid is to show the strength and predominance of the United Nations, the "supergovernment" of the New World Order. While aiding the less fortunate is not wrong, when it is attached to ulterior motivations it becomes devilish. The motivations of the "international AGENTUR" are to control the nations through debt. When aid comes in the form of "credit lines" through the World Bank and other sources of credit, it is only a chain on the neck of the less fortunate. When men are put in debt, they lose their freedom and become effectual slaves and pawns of those who hold the purse.
The supergovernment is a false messiah of the present world.
1.24. Our State, marching along the path of peaceful conquest, has the right to replace the horrors of war by less noticeable and more satisfactory sentences of death, necessary to maintain the terror which tends to produce blind submission. Just but merciless severity is the greatest factor of strength in the State: not only for the sake of gain but also in the name of duty, for the sake of victory, we must keep to the programme of violence and make-believe [make up stories to get the nations to follow us]. The doctrine of squaring accounts is precisely as strong as the means of which it makes use. Therefore it is not so much by the means themselves as by the doctrine of severity that we shall triumph and bring all governments into subjection to our super-government. It is enough for them to know that we are too merciless for all disobedience to cease." This "doctrine of severity" and "squaring accounts, is precisely what is being used in Iraq to bring it into humble submission.
You ask, "These occult things confound me, for if they are trying to hide something, why would they want to give any clue at all?" As I said, Americans are stupid. They do not notice, and yet these clues and symbols cause these cattle to become familiar with their benefactors. Cattle get their ears pierced and little identifying numbers placed inside of them. The bulls are emasculated, and then all of them are fattened for the slaughter. This is what is happening to all mankind. Slowly but surely the nations are converted by the slow process of amalgamation. Over time, the people see these symbols as only symbols of themselves. The Washington Monument is only a symbol of the occult, yet the people see it as the symbol of America. They have transposed the meaning to "beloved country" and into something benign, instead of seeing it in its true nature.
When the symbols were put on America's money, the symbols of the pyramid and the all seeing eye, it was 1933. That was the year that America advertised that it had sold out to the dragon and became willing slaves of the powers who would launch the "super-government." The actual selling out happened in 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created. Money created by debt now rules the world and the cattle suspect nothing, but the all seeing eye sees all, and follows all of the people's movements as in the little book, "1984."
These things seem as though they are broad superstitions and suspicions by the natural man. The people think that all this talk is a "conspiracy theory." Whatever a man calls it, the truth is, it is so. It is now present and inescapable, but the natural man cannot recognize it. Those who have fallen into debt, and cannot get out, are the ones who have been trapped in this awesome cult of money. The wise shall understand, but the wicked cannot understand.Revelation 17:8
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." This is to say, "The government that you saw, was before, and yet you cannot see it. It shall come up out of the earth and go into hell. And the people that dwell on the earth shall wonder in amazement after the beast because their names are not written in the book of life. They shall wonder after the beast that was, and yet it looks like it is not, and yet it is. It is a secret government, and they are unable to fathom its mysteries."